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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 8, 2009 3:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Hugh Hopper RIP

Another good man gone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba_Y2zRvXuQ
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Hopper

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Poster: Liamfinnegan Date: Jun 9, 2009 1:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hugh Hopper RIP

we are getting to that age unfortunately- I am also a big soft machine fan-you can get half a dozen shows from sugarmegs from them- I came into the dead through progressive music- the band could not have won me over with their other material- it was the big progressive like jams from 73-74 that sucked me in. With Pip Pyle departed we have the makings of a tremendous progrock afterlife band

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 9, 2009 1:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hugh Hopper RIP

I recall greatly enjoying Camembert Electrique and the Hatfields back in the 70s. The first Hatfields album still gets dusted off and given a spin fairly regularly but Camembert is lost to the mists. I really ought to find a copy and see if its as much fun as I recall.

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Jun 8, 2009 3:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hugh Hopper RIP

Big Softs fan here, thanks for bringing this to light, even if it is sad.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 8, 2009 3:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hugh Hopper RIP

Jesus Fricking Christ!

This is getting a bit old.

Too many folks are dying.

I ain't getting any younger.

I still say that Syd Barrett was one of the three most important icons of the 60s, with huge influence on all that we hold dear.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 8, 2009 4:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hugh Hopper RIP

the other 2?







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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 8, 2009 4:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hugh Hopper RIP

Well, I have babbled on about it before, but I humbly nominate Brian Jones, Donovan, and Buddy Holly.

I know, I know...where are the amazing guitar players, where are the great this and that.

But, more than anything, I see those three + one as having had huge influences on the entire movement...whatever that was. And certainly so many others had huge impacts, but these three were the three + 1 that some how merged "pop" (at the time) with "cool" (whatever that was).

Holly is an obvious choice for his influence on every three minute song of R&R derivation, but Jones, for just the way he dressed, and what he represented early on for the Stones, from a "fashion" perspective at some level. Pathetically materialistic, but nonetheless significant. And Donovan was huge in all respects, except his musicianship.

Did I have any typos in there?

Go Lakers, eh?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 8, 2009 4:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hugh Hopper RIP

Donovan just opened his recent tour last week here in Monterey - which combines scents as part of the experience. My buddies filmed the show for his people.

From his site:
Golden State Theatre Monterey, Friday May 29th 2009.
The first concert of the "Ritual Groove" Tour. A unique occaision where Donovan will be performing many of his classic hits as well as debuting a few songs from his forthcoming album "Ritual Groove".The evening will be made more special by the use for the first time of natural perfumes which will be introduced into the theatre during certain of the songs.Donovan describes the evening as a fragrant symphony of music, poetry colour and aroma.

JJ Reddick - finally seeing some action on the big stage.

This post was modified by bluedevil on 2009-06-08 23:27:57

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 8, 2009 4:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hugh Hopper RIP

We saw him last year. Boy, he has lost the voice box. He was a real nostalgia player, in terms of his approach, and it was still a great time for all, but if I begrudge Bob's talking his way thru songs, I have to judge that Donovan had lost quite a bit.

Not a complete trainwreck by any stretch.

And, I should add that the above list is not in the least ways defensible...a very personal observation on the importance of various rock stars to the scene for a kid growing up at the time.

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Poster: jack the bear Date: Jun 8, 2009 9:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hugh Hopper RIP

Much of Donovan's initial musicality (in particular, guitar) was due to the uncredited presence of Shawn Phillips, who later developed a modest career of his own.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 9, 2009 6:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hugh Hopper RIP

Interesting. Yeah, I didn't mean to imply anything other than he wasn't one of the "premier" players of the 60s, though he had a great voice for the genre and nice writing skills he put them together and his influence sorta extended way beyond the sum of the parts, so to speak. At least from my 60s West Coast vantage point.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 8, 2009 5:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hugh Hopper RIP

I think Brian Jones is criminally underrated - hell, didn't he bring Hendrix to Monterey Pop? Enough said.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 8, 2009 7:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hugh Hopper RIP

His majesty
Prince Jones smiled as he
Moved among the crowd
Ten thousand electric guitars
Were groovin' real loud, yeah

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Jun 8, 2009 8:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hugh Hopper RIP

...down in Monterey, dum-dah.... :)

Interesting choices, not many would've picked those three, but I can see the reasoning behind them all. And they are dear to me, too. You're an insightful man, Mr. Tell...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 8, 2009 9:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hugh Hopper RIP

I am just glad nobody got on me for mis-counting...I use to say "three" and for the life of me I can't recall who the original three were, but I think it was originally (when I first started thinking about important 60s folks) Holly, Barrett and Jones and then I added Donovan at some point...At least I didn't put in Sonny or Cher.

Yet.

[jk]

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Jun 8, 2009 9:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hugh Hopper RIP

lol, I meant the last 3, hee hee. But Syd is my man too, in fact, I don't like much Floyd after he split. *donning Class 5 Armor in order to dodge white bricks hurled by PF fans* :)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 9, 2009 6:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hugh Hopper RIP

I lived with THAT all my life! Most fans of theirs aren't like "us" in that I will mention Piper and they are clueless...they will mention Emily and ALane as the only early songs that might have this Syd guy on them, etc., etc.

They really focus on the mid 70s efforts, DSOTM and Wall...though I can listen to DSOTM, more for reminding me of those days, I really left them behind after the second album.

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Poster: Miss Divine Date: Jun 9, 2009 6:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hugh Hopper RIP

I have a lot of live stuff from the 69-72 years of PF.
Very experimental, very spacy and very good.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 9, 2009 12:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hugh Hopper RIP

Hmmm--well, you and Rob are two peas in a cross-pond pod! Perhaps he can make up a "mix disk" for driving us to the Prom (when in HS my boys all did this repeatedly...selecting the music was a serious activity prior to each prom. Truth be told, they RARELY asked me for a DEAD disk though I stood by patiently waiting, collection index in hand...sigh...).

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 9, 2009 8:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hugh Hopper RIP

Dark Side definitely marked the parting of the ways for me and the Floyd. I loved Atom Heart and Meddle, and found much to enjoy in More and Obscured by Clouds but when Waters' overblown epics started to dominate proceedings that was it. Never paid them much attention after that.

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Poster: Tidewater four ten O nine Date: Jun 9, 2009 3:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hugh Hopper RIP

didn't even get that far ........

lost interest after 'Ummagumma', though 'More' has its moments.

After that, the fire, the spark, the excitement of the 'live' side of Ummagumma gradually got replaced by the plodding, unexciting monotony of the evolution towards 'Another Brick'.

Funky Dung was passable but almost fell asleep while they fried the bacon on stage during 'live' Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast - I file that one in the 'money for old rope' section.

Wish I'd have got Hugh to sign my Soft Machine ticket stub before he popped his clogs, but then .....

Regards,

'Tosser'

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Poster: Miss Divine Date: Jun 8, 2009 11:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hugh Hopper RIP

Ah poop...I was only listening to Third the other day.